Scripture Reading: 1 Thessalonians 4
Has God appointed our day of death? Funeral cliché—“It was his time.”
I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.15 My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.
The KJV, minus the words added, “Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all were written, in continuance were fashioned, when none of them.” Goes with members, not days.
So, what is the thing he’s talking about that were numbered? Some go back to verse 12, “Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.” And think it’s God knowing days, But it could also be talking about various parts of a person’s substance.
--Have to conclude, I don’t know. Don’t use ambiguous verses as foundation.
My times are in thy hand: deliver me from the hand of mine enemies, and from them that persecute me.
Times—time of an event, seasons, experience, occurrence. Vicissitudes, changes, rewards and punishments. Not so much the time you are alive, but time when things occur. Which could include death.
--Have to conclude, a definite maybe.
Job 14:5-6, 14
Seeing his days are determined, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;6 Turn from him, that he may rest, till he shall accomplish, as an hireling, his day.
If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
Appointed time—word used for warfare, hardship, service. Typical Job: Life is tough, then you die, hope it doesn’t get too bad. It did for Job. Job says God has appointed, determined our days and months and we cannot pass over them.
--Have to conclude, yeah, sure sounds like it
Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
Declaring—revealing future events, more than likely referring to prophecy about Israel and the nations
Have to conclude this verse has nothing to do with our subject.
John 7:6—My time is not yet come
There was a definite time for Jesus to die. He seemed aware of it and even moved to thwart and or bring it.
--Have to conclude I’m not sure this is equivalent to us.
I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.12 For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them.
Whether God knows your time or not, you don’t! And time and chance happens to everyone! Your speed isn’t always there. Then you die.
--Have to conclude we don’t know death, nor what life is doing!
For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
Job: God has appointed our days. Psalms says the apportioning of our days is a general figure, not a specific. Tale—a groan, a moan of sorrow. Reason of strength—valor, victory, force, power. We have something to do perhaps with our length of time.
John 8:44—Devil was a murderer from the beginning
Romans 6:23—wages of sin is death
Revelation 1:18—Jesus Christ has keys of hell and death
--Have to conclude that I think God knows because He knows all things, foreknowledge, but the fact that he knows it doesn’t mean He caused it.